So I’m back, and with a continued reverence toward my friends who are able to find something to blog about at least once a day.
While I was “away,” an article appeared in the AJC about yet another development doomed to tragic shortsightedness:
Cousins Properties has filed plans with Fulton County for a possible 30-story condo tower next to the landmark “King” and “Queen” office skyscrapers in the Concourse office park at Ga. 400 and I-285.The Cobb County developer has asked the county to rezone an 11-acre corner at Concourse to allow for two buildings with as many as 650 condominium units, some shops and restaurants, and about 1,800 parking spaces at the intersection of Hammond Drive and Peachtree Dunwoody Road.
Anyone who knows Dunwoody, especially the near-pill-hill section, knows what a mess traffic tends to be around there. Even worse is the inadequacy of the Medical Center MARTA station toward mitigating any of that mess. For anyone who may use the station, its primary advantage is that if you already have a monthly MARTa pass, you don’t have to drive your car to any of the nearby hospitals and pay to park. An added benefit: as long as you’re going to the hospital to get healthy, the least you can do is walk there.
As long as Cousins wants to build residential units in the area — which is not a bad idea on its face, considering the wealth of other uses in the area — it would be a much better idea for them to push to build as close as possible to the Medical Center station. It would reduce their need to build more of these expensive, ugly parking decks, and it would reduce the need of Atlanta commuters to drive just to get anywhere.
Cousins, and all the other developers have recognized the need and demand for dense urban living in this town. The key phrase is “linking transportation and land use planning.” I heard that phrase mentioned at a recent RTIA meeting, where regional heads of local governments shuddered at the idea, as though the last thing many of them wanted was healthy communities in their cities and counties. I also read of the idea several times over the course of the research I was doing for my class the other week.
I read a fairly large pile of research that’s already been done out there in the field. Cities have been poked and prodded, compared and contrasted. Some of these papers agreed on some things, but not others. Of all the reasons why people choose to ride rail, personal characteristics — race, gender, income — were not highly rated with very strong correlations. Income had the strongest correlation among the personal characteristics throughout the literature, but the correlation wasn’t huge.
The structural environment was the single most influential factor nearly everywhere in the literature. Ming Zhang pointed out that there is a bit of a debate in the literature between folks who say “Get the land use right” and folks who say “Get the pricing right.” The “price” folks claim that if the price of each mode of transportation reflected the real costs of that mode, then there would be more people using transit. It’s an argument that makes sense only as long as real choices exist in the marketplace. What Dr. Zhang found in his research, among other findings, is that mode choice under the land use model shows varying effects depending on the densities of origins and destinations, and whether different modes were used for work or non-work travel. The effects of travel costs, meanwhile, are more uniform across the other variables. Zhang’s essential finding, which has strong policy implications back here in Atlanta if we want to get our transportation right:
Pertinent implications of the Hong Kong experience lie in the fact that Hong Kong’s land use offers desirable attributes for nondriving travel, but the city still needs a strong fiscal policy to restrain the growth in demand for auto use. This means that land use is necessary but not sufficient to influence travel. This implication is essential to the current policy debate. If the advocates of “get the land use right” want to make land use a more effective mobility tool, complementary policies such as transportation pricing should be adequately incorporated. If the advocates of “get the price right” want to improve the feasibility of implementing pricing policies to reduce driving, providing viable travel options is the place to start—which requires deliberately planned and designed nondriving-friendly land uses. The two form a pair of tactics that are more feasible and effective in combination than either implemented alone.…
In the search for policy solutions to the growing demand for driving, the debate between “get the land use right” and “get the price right” should focus not on which one is more effective, but on how the two can be integrated as complementary policies.”
It seems an obvious solution when you think about it. Here in Atlanta, our developers would have a key role to play in getting the ball rolling: push a build up of all areas that surround existing transit stations.





Hey Joe:
Nice piece. It’s no simple thing to look at “real costs” of transporation (or anything in government - what are the “real costs” of education, healthcare or the military - government spending has countless effects both positive and negative).
But you hinted at the real problem up there in Dumpwoody - horrid land use and transporation planning. For 30 years, The DeKalb County Commission hasn’t been able to say no to a developer wanting to pour some concrete in Dunwoody, but at the same time they’re refused to deal with the infrastructure.
Residents have - usually successfully - fought every road widening with great fury, and while widening roads is never a cure-all, it gets to the lack of will and foresight among county leaders.
Look at what Cobb County has done between the Kennedy Interchange and Windy Hill Road in the last five years. They have that Galleria tax district and have done a great job on road improvements. As a result, moving through what used to be a horrible area (pretty much just Cobb Parkway and Powers Ferry to get you around), is now a breeze.
Dunwoody lacks any kind of thoughtful transporation plan. It’s like the county saw MARTA coming in as the solution to all their problems. But as you point out, what have they done to leverage MARTA? Nothing like what Atlanta has fostered around Lindbergh, that’s for sure.
Personally, I avoid Dunwoody at all costs. I’d never attempt to get near Perimeter Mall on the weekend (too bad for Home Depot Expo - a great store that I never go to anymore), and there’s a major employer in the area I could work for but won’t consider because of the Dunwoody hassle (I live intown and worked around Cumberland for two years. That wasn’t a problem, but I’d never subject myself to Dunwoody traffic).
So in short (a little late for that), it would be typical of DeKalb County to let a new tower go up there with little consideration for the impact.
Comment by Cap'n Ken — August 1, 2005 @ 10:10 am
Hi Ken,
Thanks for the comments. You’re right that it’s no simple thing to look at the real costs for any of the things you mentioned. They’re all either public goods, or exhibit so many characteristics of public goods that to apply private market economics to the picture is really shortsighted.
Dumpwoody.. very nice
Maybe someday the folks there will want to form a city, too.
Comment by Joe — August 1, 2005 @ 10:29 am
Hey Joe.. I saw this as well, and of course my first reaction was the same as yours about how the proposed condo towers aren’t closer to MARTA.
Although, there is possible a silver lining here… there are plans for a second major transit line in the Perimeter area, a busway that would run across the I-285 corridor from Cumberland to Doraville with service along Hammond Drive. This would help create a real transit infrastructure in Perimeter Center, with two major axes intersecting at the Dunwoody MARTA station. (from there the first station west on the busway would serve the front door of these Concourse towers… assuming, of course, that they actually have a front door).
The 285/Hammond busway is actually a pretty exciting project: a true bus-only facility (with a provision for long-term upgrade to rail) with appropriate deviations off the expressway so that it can actually serve places that are designed for people, as opposed to freeway interchanges… a very rare example of BRT done right in Atlanta.
So of course it is on the back burner. At least compared to other projects like the I-75 “BST” nonsense which is still full speed ahead (for now). We wouldn’t actually want to spend our transit money on something useful, now would we…
Comment by Dave — August 1, 2005 @ 5:49 pm